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Karen Whiting

November 19, 2019 @ 11:00 am - 12:00 pm CST

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Shalom and welcome to this edition of revealing the truth will cover the headlines the heartlines and biblical truth I’m your host messianic rabbi Erik Walker there is a growing contempt for members of law enforcement who serve communities by keeping them safe disrespect for authority of any kind teachers politicians parents police and military is rising throughout the Western world how can civil society keep the rule of law if the people sworn to uphold it are constantly under attack the blame seems to be slanted towards so-called toxic masculinity or patriarchal religious systems as Melinda Gates bill wife’s Bill Gates wife suggests when her quote disrespect for women grows when religions are dominated by men she believes without question that this respect for women embodied male-dominated religion as a factor in laws and customs that keep women down yet Christianity has done more to set women free than to subjugate them and this does nothing to answer the larger question of disrespect according to award-winning author and military wife Karen whiting the breakdown of the family plays a critical role in how we view Authority God has created the family as a microcosm of society and when it suffers Authority in general suffers as a result her new book 52 week lead avulsions for families call to serve she says I understand the uniqueness of families who serve in the interruptions of family times due to emergency and calls to serve there are also opportunities to develop character in your children she cites the complexities of families are served in some capacity these include isolation stress fear uncertainty and sometimes even ridicule and abuse by those they’re trying to serve in other words people on position to serve have come under unprecedented attack for no good reason except they represent some form of authority when Islamic terrorists attacked America in 2001 400 firemen police officers and EMTs lost their lives risking their lives to save others since then rather than bolstering respect for servicemen and women the pendulum is swung the other direction Whiting’s book is designed to encourage families of those who served to build and reinforce them when they feel isolated and mocked she suggests ways to help celebrate faithful service create a family mission statement foster kindness gratitude and positive attitudes in the midst of animosity Karen whiting at wkyt.com is an international speaker former television host and award-winning author of 26 books including the best-selling God’s girls and the one year my princess devotions she’s written more than 700 articles for more than 60 publications currently writing for leading hearts crosswalk calm and the Christian communicator Karen is a widow the mother of five including two rocket scientists here to discuss a new book 52 we call to serve is Karen whiting Karen welcome to for this edition of revealing the truth it’s me well it’s an honor and a privilege to delve into this area where we just don’t have a spotlight shining on the change in attitude towards this incredible disrespect that’s being bred in America towards anybody in authority in uniform in public service and how that trickles down to the suffering of the children and the family members and I can be candid with you I’ve never really thought about it never considered it until your book came and said this is a huge issue this is one that the media is not covering we’re not talking about it the families are suffering I’m sure that counselors are inundated this is an issue I don’t know what the counseling community’s response to it is but people who are in positions of authority are in service are in a constant attacked firemen policemen military servicemen are constantly being derided in public restaurants being refused service our local policemen I remember growing up in the 50s we had a beat cop in our neighborhood named max everybody knew max everybody loved max he was a part of everybody’s family he would come into your home somebody would prepare brownies for him somebody would have gifts and everyone would have a gift for him at the holidays because he was there to protect our little community and so he would just walk around you’d see him when you walk to school you’d see him when you walked home from school you saw him in the local shopping area everybody knew max this was somebody who was revered loved he was the one that would grab my ear when he caught me shoplifting Necco wafers all right and leaned down and said I can take you to jail I can call your mom or you can put that back and never do it again what are you gonna do so slowly I put it back and never shoplift it’s shoplifted again but he was there out of respect how are you raised how was your journey to faith and your upbringing how did it influence you to come to this point of realizing that there is a desperate need especially for the innocent child whose parent happens to serve I was raised with faith in a small rural community with lots of family my grandfather was the fire chief and had a lifetime appointment as fire chief because he founded the fire department after he was head of the bucket brigade and they were just trying to have buckets of water to douse fire and I you know was always taught to respect him and and other people and family friends and relatives who were in law enforcement and everything my father had served during World War two so I had just heard some things about service because it was so patriotic and then when I married someone in the Coast Court I really did not know what that would involve and the moves and everything is we had and raised five children and went from Connecticut to Hawaii to Michigan to Florida crossing the country a few times that was very interesting and finding out each time we all had to make new friends our children had to make friends they had to fit into a new school system all of that and realize that was a big difference but now in modern times I’m saying that disrespect just increasing I did during Vietnam or see the people disrespecting military and it really took a long time long time for a Vietnam vets to receive any appreciation and thank you any respect they were spit on in airports my husband couldn’t wear his uniform during those days when he was outside in civilian areas but it was isolated to just those military who many of them were drafted they didn’t even choose to serve nowadays these people in the military have chosen to serve and they’re getting this disrespectful they don’t get it as much as they still get all that moving and everything a law enforcement is getting the brunt of it now and their suicide rate is than going up their divorce rate has been increasing military divorce rates are higher than the general public and you see that because of the stress on the families why isn’t this more talked about why is this not a subject which is being addressed from the pulpit I don’t think I’ve ever heard a sermon in in regards to this we read in the paper about policeman being refused service at a restaurant by somebody that has an issue with law enforcement and we don’t see a statement coming out by the owners of Arby’s by the owners of McDonald’s by the major corporation saying that we support our service members and this behavior will not be tolerated and that there are active campaigns and they’re the key influencers if I’m an employee and I deny service and it stays with my local manager and maybe the local news picks it up and the corporation doesn’t do anything and doesn’t take on their corporate citizenship role then what what message does that sent that’s not a good message it just not Veterans Day in which certain restaurants and places were very good to the military gave service people and the retirees free meals and I think we should certainly support and go to those places Golden Corral and everyone else who did that you can look that up online and see it because if we patronize those who are respecting those who serve us that sense of message but the other thing is we have media that actually doesn’t respect the people who serve the politicians that don’t agree with them and other people and that does not help we have families that should be the core place where we teach respect but many people instead say someone has to earn their respect I was taught God created them and we respect them because of authority and because their image of God is within them but if we don’t have that as we have less people of faith then that adds to the disrespect in society but we do need as a family each of us to respect her and show that respect instead of coming home because you got a ticket from the police that you deserved because you did break the law you disparage and you say bad things and negative things about the police you don’t take your own responsibilities and own up and say yeah I went too fast or yes I went through a light thinking I could make it and admitting that you are responsible it sends a message to your children that we don’t need to respect someone even if we did break the law well you’re exactly right in raising your children what were some of the things that you found in common with other families that were like yours which were being uprooted and moved and how did what was there a subculture of families of military I mentioned that my daughter lives down by the Pensacola Naval Base and there are families that are constantly moving in and out of her neighborhood she only has a three and a half month old baby so it’s not really impacting her friendships the baby’s friendships but my daughter’s just getting established and and looking for friends and finding people and she’ll get to know them and then all of a sudden a week later they’re there they get orders and they’re moving and they’ll call her up and say hey do you need a king-size mattress because they have to pay for their own move they pay by weight so they are constantly reducing weight there’s a whole subculture of people who are exchanging furniture and and unloading things and then they go to the new location somebody is trying to offload their stuff so they don’t have to pay the moving costs and it’s become a whole subculture but the kids are all impacted by this and there is that need so how is it manifesting in our children first of all outside of service members children how are Euler non service-related children being raised and taught by parents who are disrespectful to law enforcement or to people in uniform or to people in authority and then how does that carry over to the children we’re sitting right next to them in class as a movie or a discussion opens up about this particular area and it’s and it’s talking about their mom or their dad and it’s got to be very uncomfortable yes and you’ve touched on so many different issues the law enforcement some of my friends who are in law enforcement actually live a town or two away from where the beat is so that their children are not as impacted by your own dad is a police officer that may impact what my parents do or I may see them out and about I don’t know if that’s good or bad because you do have part where you knew the local police officer I knew the local police law enforcement people in my town and we did respect them and honor them but sometimes you have to decide I can best protect my family by moving them out of this circle so that they won’t be put down and I will say that those families especially if they’re our faith are very close-knit our family was closing in five children they had each other as friends and they still do will gather together for Thanksgiving and Christmas as they come to my home to celebrate and my my oldest son my oldest son in law both served more than the army went in the Air Force so they had that for a time they were both medically retired which is another whole issue there is a subculture of those people who move in the Coast Guard where it’s a smaller service you can end up moving back to friends you were with two stations ago and that’s really exciting when that happens because you know them and you’re so happy to be with them again if you’re in I was in office of Christian Fellowship so that’s type of move we could move to another station right ahead of time and be welcomed by the people that knew we would flow right into their Bible study and their children would be ready to welcome our children but it can be difficult especially in some of the services when you can go from here to Okinawa to Germany you know and all over the world where there’s different languages around you and and everything else you do also have those children who all of a sudden their neighbors are gone but they were friends with because they didn’t understand the new military they would move again the children in that family new will move again they didn’t know and thankfully today we have Skype like we’re on here we have online ways of communicating with them and FaceTime to keep up with those friends it’s not the same as being there and playing together but it helps with that separation a bit and I think that within the family you do have that core what you say we are together you know when we move it because daddy or mommy has this commitment we are committed as a family and you have to think of it that way because of it we will do this together and just think of the adventure we have we get to see new places children of military know the global map better than other children do they understand travel and certain things so they get some advantages even though they get those disadvantages of relationships children who may have if they move even more where they have three or four schools in two years that can be very disruptive to their education so a number of military that had more moves are doing more homeschooling just to survive and keep the children in a more of a continuity of their education so are there different choices they can have but we have to look at the uniqueness of our family and say how are we going to face this what help can we have and you’ll find you have that network of support with the other people that share that common calling no my neighbor down the street in the last place I lived the dad was a firefighter he was three days on three days off never home on the same day of the week except so many weeks apart and they had to refer to the calendar before they said yes or no to playdates with their friends because maybe that was the day your dad was home and wanted time with their dad and mom would say you can’t do it dad Tom we really want to be together and they look forward to dad being there so you know they understood it but you do have to help them with the challenges the timing the maps to understand what their life is like and embrace what’s really good about it the churches that are in these communities especially military bases Coast Guard what have you do they specifically minister to this particular area have you found that they are trained qualified focus that they’re providing in their youth groups they’re talking about these kind of transplantation issues as well as what do you do about when their kids read that a military person in uniform was was spit on or denied service or treated disrespectfully and they read about it they heard about our assault on TV are they addressing that at that level it depends a number of churches where they have a lot of military are doing that military base is often have a chapel and some families choose to go there because they know on the families there will understand their circumstances but then they sometimes feel like well we’re keeping our children in a bubble should we spread out more I mean again you have those choices to make I know in one location we were in the local church but towards the end when it was getting time to move we switched to the chapel because we felt like that was more supportive of the upcoming move for us and more understanding for them so you do have that happening and what was nice is on Veterans Day weekend I was visiting a friend I was up in Georgia because I had some speaking and things going on and that church a dinner that day after church for the military families and the other people were serving them and that’s just really nice to see that they do that that they acknowledge that they had each of the members who served or was had served at any time in their life stand up front so they could be prayed over and recognize their service and when a church does that of course anyone in whatever industry there’s service that they’re recognizing feel so much more welcomed and at ease and that they can share what happens in their lives there are certainly some unique problems in absenteeism this danger that many of the parents face if your father or mother is a police officer if your mother or father are deployed overseas in a battle area there is always the potential for injury loss of life all those things there’s a whole different set of challenges which face the young people that they’re having to be introduced to and you can’t insulate them from it because if you do that then the shock when if and when it comes is so totally unsettling and so totally unexpected that there is no cushion there is no margin if you will so how do you create an environment for and and and can we qualify how many children in the United States are impacted by parents who are in some form of service whether or not it’s fire police EMT Armed Services FBI there’s there’s a lot of a lot of law enforcement and a lot of there’s people who are in work in the prison system there are people who work in the court system is bailiffs there are sheriffs there are police officers there are EMT s there are firemen it it’s a much larger base than I think that we might consider you have any statistical data on I don’t have it in front of me and the more people you put in the more families that are impacted I do know when when you mentioned do they have places on base for those in the military but a friend of my daughter that father was the first one killed in Afghanistan after 9/11 that mother had two little children and as soon as the Marine Corps came to knock on the door and say your husband died the paparazzi came immediately afterwards and scared that little boy who was only a toddler so much that he spent six months crawling under his bed every night and crying or screaming for an hour she has become a grief counselor because she understands it and so many times you will find on those basis counselors who help that either grow up in a military family are in one and they really do understand and that gives them a compassion that they need and helps them greatly as a fire chief his granddaughter I can recall one time I was in bed but I was not asleep and it was late at night that my grandfather stopped at the house because he was so sad and felt so bad that one person that they responded to a car that flipped over by the time the fire engine got there was only two miles away it had burned up so badly the man died there was no way that they could rescue him and he felt that and when he mentioned the name I knew it was the father of my best friend who had died and that she would think that the fireman didn’t save his life they absolutely could not and that introduced me to the real dangers in the death the people they’re trying to save sometimes you can’t say and an EMT who responds to heart attacks and other things sometimes they can save them sometimes it’s too late by the time they’re called and they arrive and we have all of those complications too and they feel great compassion for the people they’re trying to say and a lot of people don’t understand it they just think this is a job for them it’s so much more than child and and that’s part of what we have to understand that’s why families who don’t serve if they read a book like this call to serve with their children they start getting a glimpse into what it’s like to serve what it’s like for those people they might when they’re young think I want to be a firefighter because I get to wear the hat and ride the truck and when they see this side of it they get to see a more complete picture of what it’s really like to serve and to be called to serve and feel this is what God wants me to do with my life you know that that’s important too but the danger is real we cannot isolate them because we don’t know when something will happen we never know that and it’s better instead to build a great trust to God and to be thankful for every day we do have together well you bring out some very very key points and in their incredible prayer points obviously there’s a great need for a strong faith foundation something for them to be able to lean on there needs to be a greater awareness of our youth pastors too they may have children in their youth groups whose parents are serving in some capacity and they’re not really made aware and there needs to be a level of awareness I confess I was completely ignorant to this being an area of need that I would have never addressed from a congregational perspective I would have never addressed from a social justice perspective when Dawn called me and said to me I want to pitch an idea to you about a the devotional I was like you know the world does not need another devotional I get pitches for about a thousand devotionals a year and he said this one’s different he said here’s what’s different about this one and I said this I have to have on because this opens up an area where I think that the average Christian is completely ignorant they have no awareness whatsoever of the crying need of the gaping wound that exists in the homes in the hearts of families whose who whose husbands or wives are in the service public service and Armed Services area putting their lives on the line and how they can possibly impact the discussion points of what we need to show them the need for God in God’s part in protecting and not just been protecting but when there is an injury when there is a fatality when there are these things we’re having to prepare children my parents didn’t prepare me for the death of a loved one nobody was in harm’s way so when my grandmother passed away she was the first I was already in my 20s that was the first time I had anything to do with anybody passing away I didn’t know what to think I didn’t I had no preparation whatsoever for how to think how to feel how to respond what the concept was because it was never discussed you we didn’t know anybody who died you know we might have heard of somebody’s parent passed away but we weren’t close to it the parents might have been closed but they insulated to it is the 50s the kids weren’t involved in anything it’s different today we we are aware of the needs of the children and that’s why it’s so important that we have resources like this we’re talking with Karen whiting author of a new devotion 52 weekly devotions for families called to serve we’re all aware of the gross amount of disrespect being heaped upon those who are in the military those who are in the police force those in the fire department those who are being denied service or restaurants or being spit upon at assemblies and rallies who are being signaled out for being people in authority doing a job where they are willing to put their lives on the line and Jesus said no greater gift than this than for one man to lay down his life for another and each one of these people have been called to this service this is not a default position you have to work pretty hard to earn the title firefighter you have to go through a lot of training through a lot of examination through physical rigors in order to do that to be an EMT to serve in any military officer position you go through training just to be a private you’ve got to go through basic training before you become a private first class so there’s there’s all kinds of investment which is being made and it’s a whole family is engaged in this calling in this investment and I don’t think we paid enough attention to them so we’re gonna take a short break and when we come back we’re gonna dig in to some of the topical areas these devotions cover and how they can impact the well-being and the personal relationship with Messiah for these families who are called to serve we’ll be right back the Lord meets you right where you are and so does ignite Ignatians new live streaming outlets you can now watch revealing the truth revealing the Bible and prophecy revealed simulcast live each Monday through Friday from 10 a.m. to 1 o’clock p.m. Central Standard Time on YouTube live Facebook live vinny o periscope and through our website WWE and acecomm no matter what device you are using our program will automatically scale so you won’t have to miss a single program and if you happen to miss an episode 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the devotion what areas that you emphasize what you cover and how you feel that it’s equipping families to be able to face some of the challenges that they’re facing that we’re not going to change human nature I was a child of the 60s and the 50s and then early 70s in college as I finished my college career in the early 70s who did not have respect for the Vietnam vet we held them responsible for our role in Vietnam which was misplaced our message was good our delivery was horrible and I’ve apologized on Veterans Day every year for 40 years for the way we were treated we treated our returning Vietnam vets they were just doing a job a job they didn’t want to do in a place they didn’t want to do it for a cause that they didn’t believe in either but they were performing their duty and what they were sworn to do which was to defend America whether right or wrong should we be there or not be there they were doing what they were instructed to do and they were due respect for that and we did not give that to them and for that I regret on behalf of my generation the way we receive them and this this idea of laying down one’s life for another is incredibly important incredibly significant and there are people who put their cells in the line of danger in the line of and put their lives on the line every day they get up in the morning and they leave the house much more so than the average person this devotion was written to them and for them so talk to me about the thought process the genesis and the focal areas and what you hope to accomplish within those families and what the residual effect will be because there will be a residual effect that will come from this when you have children that are equipped to respond and have confidence and faith that they did not have before yes well I think one thing from the book that is in my heart always is to help develop a servant heart and help families be open to discussion of whatever is an issue for their family I can recall a time my husband came home sat down with the family they had devotions they said I want to share something that happened today because it shows what I believe it was in mass transit going into work when a young girl came up to him a you know college age probably and it started berating the military and what he was doing and everything and he looked at her when she finally stopped talking and said you know what I will continue to put my life every day so that you will still have the freedom to say which you said even to me and that’s dr. silenced her from saying anything he said because people don’t understand and if I remind them that I am willing to die for them to die so they can say disrespectful things sometimes it causes them to at least think about it and so there is that type of thing where he was willing to share that with our children because we did devotions I did them with my own children starting with my own thing two years old because it was the way to not have chaos around us and to bring faith in the home and weave it into our life that’s what I want to do in this book every week there is a focus I think that’s good to do and because families can be busy because dad might be in and out of the home or mom due to work it’s nice to line it up as a week that you can look and say okay there’s a family attitude there is a focus of what the week is going to be about and so one on one that’s called life lines the family Beatitudes happiest the family who will seek help for they will find a lifeline and the focus is helping in emergencies the Bible verse is from Matthew 7:7 asked and will be given unto you the activities in there is to practice making a 9-1-1 call talk about the importance of that practice an emergency response teaching some basic first-aid to your children in the home so it’s really practical and some weeks are a little more service a little more fun some weeks a little more practical depending what we need and this story there’s always a story that’s just two minutes to read that particular story is a child calling 9-1-1 the EMTs and the 9-1-1 operator she was them on the line the EMTs have an extra person in their vehicle so when they arrive they have someone to be with that child while they take care of the father they saved the father’s life in that particular instance and they were all happy about that but they even I root were concerned about that child who called as well as the person in trouble there’s a Bible story connection of responding to Jesus responding to an emergency when Jairus pleads for help for his servant who is in trouble from mark five and then there are little chat prompts that really talk about different things about fear about having peace and how a friend loves at all times they are there to help the trouble comes from proverbs 17:17 to help build the child’s faith to know there are people who want to help you you can find them in our society we can make one call to find that help that we need which is great there’s also a scrapbook prayer journal because I believe these family since they face danger they don’t know if that person’s going to be alive tomorrow if we start scrapping scrapbooking every week the response is what we’ve chatted about and there’s some little icons drawing ideas you can put into it you have a faith legacy your children will always have or not hear that time that you’ve been in faith together and remember what the person who served did okay there’s a frontline tip that specifically is for that family who serves in this case those tips are for the EMTs and thanking the EMTs who help and there’s a prayer and a little wrap-up but every week is a different aspect of what happens with a different story sometimes it’s see a family being served sometimes it’s the family who’s serving there’s another story about an EMT that’s so exhausted at work has had so many calls that the father and daughter showed up during their break time with that person’s favorite shape just to thank that person they knew they couldn’t be home they were working but they wanted to let them know we care we’re praying for you because within your own family you can give great respect and honor those people outside of that you can remind people that you know my mom or my dad serves and they do it because they care about people that helps at home we always turned off the media if they said anything disparaging about other people politicians law enforcement anything that was not something we wanted to listen to when we said you know we don’t agree with what the nudes are saying you and we need to do more of that and not cheer or keep that tuned in you have sigmund of the book in kind of an interesting way at least from my observation that it starts out by explaining what it is that the family member does that why there’s a need for it how it fits into society an understanding of the calling as to this isn’t just a job this is something that they’re called to do so it actually elevates the position to that that’s just a little bit you know the accountant goes to work and his biggest his biggest threat as a paper cut the policeman goes to work and his biggest threat of course is a shootout you go into compassion and there’s a compassion message contained throughout because they’re in this area of service there is also an aspect of a victim that’s involved a person who passed away and the EMT was trying to serve them where someone who died in the fire or died in the car wreck or died in the plane crash or died in the field of battle so this this underlying theme of developing a sense of compassion for those who served but also for the ones that they serve so it’s it’s it’s kind of a duality I need to be sensitive to an aware of what my parent does but when there is somebody else involved that they are performing their job for to or with I must have compassion for them as well and it’s not just I’m praying for daddy I’m praying for the people of the daddy service I’m praying for the community that Daddy serves in I’m praying for their protection so that daddy doesn’t come into harm’s way but in order for him to avoid harm’s way then people have to not be in harm’s way and so it’s kind of a a micro to a macro back to a micro view of understanding how all this is so interrelated and how how much of a cycle and how connected each one of these people who serve are to the scriptures that says faith without works is death and we have to be the hands and feet of Messiah and how the person who is in this it’s called to serve are the hands and feet of Messiah and our ministering to and through that ministry could bring somebody not only back from death or from harm but also possibly into salvation and so that is a larger healing a larger aspect and underlying theme of the devotion is to build the faith of the family to be intercessors for not just the family member but for the community in which the family serves so this can get very complicated yes it can and in fact there is one I think it’s titled I know the story is titled siren calls and that’s of a family a dear friend of mine whose husband is a firefighter in California which they’ve had so many near-death and dangerous situations they they actually had friends who were firefighters who lost their homes these fires and the little girl at one point when the mother they hear a siren and they pull over to let them go by it but they stop a little longer to pray for everyone involved they pray for the firefighters that pray for the police that also admire they pray for the victims because they don’t know who they’re helping and that child then says why doesn’t everybody continue to stop and pray for the people when they hear a siren and the mother says they don’t necessarily know we know because of what daddy does and we know that we want to care and God calls us to do that at spier that family that’s part of what we do and I didn’t know I grew up also because I’ve got grandpa there was a fire chief listening to the sirens driving to pause and pray for the people involved so to me that was natural but I realized when a hit other friends and I was driving at one point as I had a license and I pulled over and I prayed they were it was so alien to them and they said wow I never thought about that and I thought I never didn’t think about that you know it’s that type of thing that we need to share and throw these stories in this book we share some of that so other people can understand how do we feel how do we react when this is part of our life we’ve been doing it let’s look at the other side of this the families that have used and are using the devotional what kind of feedback are you getting from them and how are you seeing it in impact families neighborhoods churches communities other service families what impact are you seeing that the this has people have been letting me know that they just love this devotion that it’s for those who have never been involved like you with any of these callings they’re like my eyes are so opened I never knew that I have so much more of an appreciation those who live it just say thank you we’re able to talk about this we’re getting more tools we can use and it’s really helping to have children they don’t feel like they’re the only ones in this type of a family because they’re hearing stories of other children in such families and that you know whenever you don’t feel alone and you feel other people are walking with you you feel more loved and you feel more able to cope with things I think the majority of families out there find the concept of a family devotion just in general there’s so many resources I’m intimately from a year I get the pitch for every one of them but yet the actual application of it I think is lacking I think that it tends to roll over to mom mom then does it when dad’s not around so that dad doesn’t feel like he’s not doing his job he comes home from work and that’s not a good time because they’ve got homework and they’ve got this and they’ve got that so the you know it’s a good idea you know it’s the right thing to do you know it’s what you should do but the reality is is that high-percentage don’t have family devotion a high percentage have never seen a parent read a Bible I grew up in a family where we went to synagogue but we had a family Bible my mother’s 93 I have her Bible was given to her in confirmation it’s never been opened except by me that’s so how do we I mean it seems simple seems simple enough to do how do we demystify it how do we make it and incorporate it as because how many families are having breakfast together everybody’s grabbing and running and off to the races so unless you’re a homeless school family and they’re very very proud of their regular devotions and and and they are the ones that are big consumers or the mops group they’re heavily involved in this but the average working family what advice do you have for them for when and how to do this well they do have to choose what time is best for them or what day of the week is best for them with us it was before dessert and we would say if we don’t have time to read God’s Word and do something with it today we don’t have time for dessert if we can’t have the sweetness of something sweeter than honey in the honeycomb as the Bible as it is then we don’t have time for another sweetness in our life and that really motivated our children to be ready be downstairs and the end open to you know doing the devotion but the other thing that happened was children would come over to visit stay overnight they would be part of the devotion they would take it back and talk to their parents when people would say to me why are your parent your children so great together why do they not seem to fight you know all these questions they would ask you always say you know a lot of it I believe centers around having family devotions it’s the heart of our family we normally do it then but then we can talk about what we read at the dinner table in a car and faith becomes the fabric of our life and then I looked at some of those families that never did that and said you know they had a lot more trouble keeping their children in faith when they grow up as adults because it was only a Sunday thing it seemed unimportant we have to start thinking what do we want long term and our children if we want faith to be important it has to be important now in our family life you can’t expect a different outcome when you have the same input well I completely agree with you and I I know the cost that’s involved in not doing it I personally firsthand don’t know the benefit of having done it because I was too busy doing the work of the Lord to take a look at my own family first and so it became something that that became an issue of ministry and became an issue of good parenting and so one of those things that you look back and say this I would have done differently this I would have incorporated into the daily life and found and made the time but I was seeking after the higher good the larger community thinking that was the bigger calling but it was the salvation of my children and my spouse that really was what I was entrusted with first and so that’s where my responsibility was first and I think that’s a message to fathers out there that you need to be engaged especially if you are one who is serving that when you are there with the family that you find a way to be involved in these devotions and moms who are there holding down the house the fort while dad’s away performing this act to service to continue to bring that message so when dad comes home dad finds the appreciation the love and the respect that he was not receiving when he was out there in the world that he was finding that at home so it’s incredibly important on many levels and you have my absolute complete support for what you’re doing and an absolute endorsement from us the book is called 52 weekly devotions for families called to serve it is Karen whiting whi T ing and if you go to ignite enh and calm and just click on Karen name it will be the first thing you see when you scroll down the page to today’s broadcast calendar you will see Karen’s name just click on it in order the book right from there get a copy for yourself there’s a holiday coming up it’s a great gift to give to all the families that you know and what a wonderful gift to give to somebody whose family is in a serving area a fighter fire a policeman a military person and put it in their hands as a gift to let them know that there is hope for them and that you’ve been praying for them all along and this is how you’ve been having your children include them in your prayers so Karen whiting thank you thank you for this great work thank you for opening my eyes and our audience eyes to a great need that exists out there in the world we appreciate you very much and thank you for having yeah you’re welcome god bless you we’re gonna take a short break and when we come back we’ll bring you the next edition of revealing the truth

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